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1.)

ON POETRY

JournalWhat makes a poem memorable?What makes a poem forgettable?
Abacus: Peter Ganick The willingness of the poet to take a chance—whether syntactically or visually on the page—and preserve a musical sense.Stale words and structures, poems that imitate other poems, poems that work on the page but not when spoken.
Chelsea: Richard FoersterA distinctive voice speaking of things that matter; vivid imagery; startling yet appropriate turns of phrase; carefully sculpted lines and stanzas; language that exploits the musicality of English; a conclusion that makes the whole poem resonate like a mighty bell. And then, in the ensuing silence, must come the urge to read the poem again.Clichés; sentimentality; self-centered-ness; insincerity; abstract, flabby language; prosiness; haphazard line breaks; an overall unshapeliness; tin-ear cadences; clunkiness.
Frank: An International Journal of
Contemporary Writing and Art:

David Applefield
A moment of deep irony. Language that cuts you.Unambitiousness, predictability.
Green Mountains Review:
Neil Shepard
The confluence of memorable language, intriguing imagery and metaphor, intelligent discursiveness, visible signs of formal discovery, intensity and pressure that bring the poem into being—all of which dramatizes the poem's content and, to rephrase a Charles Olson chestnut, brings it all the way over to the reader.Any number of miscues, from clichéd treatment of the subject matter to inert language and inattention to form.
The Massachusetts Review:
Paul Jenkins
Exactly those qualities that would make memorizing it most difficult. Unexpected language, sudden turns of thought or tone, passionate takes on human or non-human surroundings, idiosyncracy of outlook.Ordinariness.
New Letters: Robert Stewart Wit. Beautiful and vivid language matters, of course, but wit—a sense of unity, a bringing together of things not previously thought of in the same moment—is really interesting to us. Sometimes that involves paradox, ironic tension, or a turn that takes the poem beyond a conventional way of seeing.Notably, conventional language and a conventional perspective—especially when that language meets "poetic" expectations—an unwillingness to be unreasonable in a poem.
Open City: Elizabeth Schmidt A range of so many things, from sound to surprising diction and syntax to the specificity of its imagery—ideally, a combination of all of these aspects.A lack of the [qualities cited in question 1] above.
Poetry Review: Peter ForbesConstellations of phrasing which are utterly distinctive without sounding forced.Experiences only the poet is interested in, couched in flat, predictable language.
Provincetown Arts: Christopher BusaAuthenticity of voice, force of emotion.False voice, false emotion.
Salmagundi: Robert BoyersImpossible to answer such a question in general. A Louise Glück poem is often memorable for its phrasing, a Frank Bidart poem for its narrative urgency and design, a Robert Pinsky poem for its wit or its mixing of registers, a Carl Dennis poem for its off-handed ironies and its redemptive understanding of the quotidian. And so on.A merely workman-like approach to a poem's material or over-valuation of raw emotion.
Xanadu: Lois V. WalkerThe sense of shared humanity with language that is evocative, fresh, and explores the world as experienced with passion and vision.Telling us what we already know in predictable language.


What do you expect from a poet whose work you already know?

Abacus: The ability to be innovative and not fall back upon prior stylistic successes.

Chelsea: I expect poems that equal or surpass the poet's best published work, but also something fresh, something that takes risks.

Frank: An emotional response whose pain I somehow enjoy returning to.

Green Mountains Review: If I've already published that poet, I expect new poems as surprising and dynamic as the previous submission (though I'm often disappointed). If I've already rejected that poet, I expect poems better than the last batch, poems that might indicate that the poet has read an issue of GMR and has grasped its editorial standards (though I'm often disappointed).

The Massachusetts Review: Liveliness and surprise. No different from what I'd be looking for in any submission, really.

New Letters: The standards are the same for familiar as for unfamiliar poets—the difference being that we are likely to spend more time examining the poem of someone we know to be an accomplished writer, if at first it seems puzzling or odd. Ultimately, though, each poem must be convincing on its own.

Open City: I try not to read any poem with expectations.

Poetry Review: Not to get off-cuts.

Provincetown Arts: Surprise of growth.

Salmagundi: More of the same or something entirely different: again, this is impossible to answer in general. We know, to take one example, that Robert Lowell's poems of the sixties differ radically from his works of the forties. Other poets will surprise us as much as Lowell did; others will not.

Xanadu: I expect to follow the poet in a personal quest of discovery involving language and meaning. Not new for the sake of new, but new because the poet continues to make discoveries.


What makes work from a new poet exciting?

Abacus: If it is a young poet, the willingness to take on big issues of poetry—whether style, form, or the academic status quo—with a new way of using language.

Chelsea: Discovering a new and compelling voice is like finding the Grail after a long quest. Drink deep from that cup. There should be no greater satisfaction for an editor.

Frank: The affirmation that there are individuals out in the world that share this strange passion for language.

Green Mountains Review: Wildly original lines of poetry; perhaps the whole poem is flawed and slightly out of control, but it's full of palpable necessity. Fresh perspectives—aesthetic, philosophical, or political—that awaken readers to the protean nature of poetry.

The Massachusetts Review: Simply finding someone unknown to you who already sounds distinctly like himself or herself and whose work strikes you forcefully.

New Letters: One hopes to find in a new poet an authentic voice, not an imitation of someone else's success. This doesn't mean gimmicky, but a voice that stands up to the content and demands of the poem—a voice with credibility.

Open City: Too hard to pin down—a poem can feel "new" in so many ways—but it's always a thrill to hear new voices.

Poetry Review: A voice that already stands out.

Provincetown Arts: Freshness of voice, often buried by bad things.

Salmagundi: The challenge to ideas we hold about what poetry can and ought to be—or, magnificent confirmation of what we already knew to be poetry's largest possibilities. The prose element in Frank Bidart's work was an exciting challenge to our standard ideas; Amy Clampitt showed us an excitingly elegant version of what we knew poetry could do and be.

Xanadu: Finding a new voice, another take on the world we share. The surprises.


2.)

ON THEIR AESTHETIC

Could you describe your aesthetic?

Abacus: Language-centered; experimental; visually oriented.

Chelsea: As an editor, I try to be a chameleon, to engage with each work on its own aesthetic ground without letting personal biases color my judgment—but, mere human that I am—I tend to favor poems that delve beneath the surface of things: a truth-seeking that finds public expression in elegant language.

Frank: (no response)

Green Mountains Review: I favor poems with embedded narratives and dramatic contexts, but I'm also drawn to apparently "subjectless" poems, if other elements of the poem attract me—fresh language, formal innovation, fierce intelligence. Having witnessed the uncharitable constraints of various "poetic schools," from Pound's imagism to the so-called language poets—I'm eclectic in my tastes. My only requirements are that the poem succeed on whatever terms it establishes, that it clearly articulates the arc of its poetic endeavor, makes me recognize and live its discoveries, performs its functions with notable style, and attempts, in the old grand phrase, to change my life.

The Massachusetts Review: Not really. My co-editors Anne Halley and Martín Espada have overlapping but sometimes different reactions to poems from mine, and among us the range of tolerances and preferences is quite large, we hope. If there's one thing we consciously look for in a poem, it's probably some sign that the poem has taken real notice of a larger world beyond the smaller one of the self.

New Letters: The magazine loves to contradict itself, so we always recommend that writers read it to discover our aesthetic. We publish wonderful narrative poems, but our aesthetic cares much more about language as a method of discovery. Our poems are long and short, but a poem must believe in conciseness and the explosive power of the well-placed word. Of all things, a poem must be working with language, even as it contains other ideas.

Open City: No.

Poetry Review: I like objective art—art with such a pervasive character that it feels like a natural species, something that had to exist.

Provincetown Arts: Art, not for art's sake, but for our sake.

Salmagundi: I like poems which do not seem to come from the land of workshops, which are not merely well-made, which make demands and risk something.

Xanadu: A little bit of Ruskin and a great deal of faith in the human spirit that can be explored and recorded only in a rich and honest language used by poets—actually, all artists.


Are you a writer? Do you think there is a distinctive editorial approach among editors who are also writers?

Abacus: I am a writer. I believe most editors select poems to further their own poetic agenda.

Chelsea: Yes, I am a poet, but no, I don't think writer-editors can claim any distinctive approach to the task of editing. Good editors are primarily good readers, and not all good readers can write. (And how many writers don't read!) Nor do I think writer-editors are more sensitive than other editors to those writers whose egos compel them to send hate mail after receiving a rejection or suffering some perceived slight. The only "distinctive approach" I can think of—and this is a condemnation—is that some writer-editors willingly set aside good editorial judgment in exchange for "you publish me and I'll publish you" entanglements.

Frank: Yes, that's why I became a publisher. Writers need to be reading other writers. Otherwise the commercial pressure to accept what sells wins out.

Green Mountains Review: I write poetry, essays, and book reviews. I have no idea whether there is uniformity of editorial approach among editors who are also writers (I suspect not). I believe that my life as a writer informs my life as an editor: specifically, I offer hand-written notes to many poets; I allow simultaneous submissions (life is short and the re-porting time at many magazines, including GMR, is exasperatingly long); I encourage revision and often ask to see more poems.

The Massachusetts Review: Yes. I don't really know.

New Letters: Yes. I doubt that it would be easy to find an editor for a literary journal who is not, to some degree, a writer.

Open City: Yes—though I write mostly criticism and literary journalism now. No, no distinctive editorial approach among editor/writers—all editors are different with different sensibilities and protocols.

Poetry Review: I am a writer but no longer write poems. I think almost all editors are writers.

Provincetown Arts: One can't be an editor without being a writer.

Salmagundi: I am a critic and a fiction writer; the two other principal editors are poets. We do not have a distinctive editorial approach, unless care and discernment are distinctive.

Xanadu: All of our editors are serious writers. I think the hard choices editors make in their own work can make them more alert to small but vital word choices, etc, especially in poetry.


JournalName three of your favorite poets(deceased).What literary journals do you like, other than your own?
AbacusEzra Pound, Daniel Davidson, D. A. Levy.Orpheus Grid, Big Allis, Torque, Chain, Juxta
ChelseaJames Merrill, Emily Dickinson, Elizabeth Bishop.Poetry, Georgia Review, Gettysburg Review, and Shenandoah are among my favorites, as well as The Hudson Review, The New Criterion, and The Virginia Quarterly Review. I subscribe to all of these not just for the poetry they contain, but also for the book reviews.
FrankD. H. Lawrence, Pablo Neruda, Boris Pasternak.(no response)
Green Mountains ReviewContemporaries: James Wright, Elizabeth Bishop, Larry Levis. Moderns: Robert Frost, Theodore Roethke, W. C. Williams.APR(for its essays, less often for its poetry), Grand Street, The Georgia Review, The Sewanee Review, Denver Quarterly, TriQuarterly, Antioch Review, ACM, Poetry East.
The Massachusetts ReviewVallejo, Mandelstam, Bishop.All kinds of things interest me. I liked especially the old Kenyon Review under Marilyn Hacker. I read Ploughshares, APR and Grand Street on a pretty regular basis, but I also like running into new, toothy magazines I've never seen before.
New LettersPablo Neruda, Andre Breton, David Ignatow.Northwest Review(for essays), Ploughshares, Georgia Review, The Laurel Review. It is impossible to limit this list, really.
Open CityElizabeth Bishop, Paul Celan, Emily Dickinson.The New Yorker, Granta, The Paris Review, Mudfish, DoubleTake.
Poetry ReviewW. H. Auden, Louis MacNiece, Primo Levi.The London Review of Books, Thumbscrew.
Provincetown ArtsYeats, Milton, Homer.Antaeus(gone), Dial(gone).
SalmagundiRobert Browning, Wallace Stevens, Randall Jarrell.The Threepenny Review, Parnassus, The Yale Review, and others.
XanaduEmily Dickinson, Theodore Roethke, William Stafford.The Threepenny Review, The Kenyon Review, Calyx, and of course others.


3.)

ON THE JOURNAL

Do you have a specific type of reader in mind when you decide what to publish? If so, could you give us his or her profile?

Abacus: Educated, willing to take a chance in their reading, tired of typical poetry found in shopping malls.

Chelsea: It is impossible that each and every work I decide to publish in Chelsea could ever appeal unfailingly to any one type of reader. Still, in the back of my mind is always that ideal reader: open-minded, intelligent, inquisitive.

Frank: No.

Green Mountains Review: I imagine two readers for GMR: the first is the Ideal Reader, someone who has read poetry for years and approaches each new poem with critical intelligence, emotional sensitivity, and a lively sense of the poetic tradition. I try to imagine how each poem in GMR will interest and challenge such a reader. The second reader is the Necessary Reader, the post-graduate student who is still dismantling the poetic architecture s/he learned in an M.F.A. program. I try to imagine how each poem in GMR will influence and help such a reader.

The Massachusetts Review: A specific reader? I don't think so. I think Anne and Martin and I imagine ourselves as being the readers for whom we choose, hoping that other readers will find our preferences satisfying, surprising, or exhilarating.

New Letters: Imagine David Ignatow, William Matthews, and Denise Levertov as one mind.

Open City: Yes, a young, under-40ish audience, or readers who are interested in hearing new, younger voices.

Poetry Review: No.

Provincetown Arts: Open-minded/cynical, intelligent/obtuse, innocent/experienced.

Salmagundi: Our readers include professional literary people and general intellectuals who rarely read poetry. We have in mind, when we decide what to publish, the most discerning readers of poetry, usually other poets.

Xanadu: Our choices are geared to the experienced reader and writer of poetry, and hopefully wide-ranging enough to spread the interest to a multicultural audience. We are not attached to a heavy dose of the academic.


JournalHow many poems should a submission include?How long should another writer wait before sending another submission after being rejected?
AbacusEighteen to twenty-four pages.Once rejected, if no specific encourage-ment to resubmit is given, then the writer shouldn't.
ChelseaNo more than can fit comfortably into a standard #10 business envelope—usually four to six poems or a maximum of ten pages.Unless encouraged to send sooner, a writer should wait at least a year before submitting again.
FrankTwo to ten.Six months.
Green Mountains ReviewA maximum of five pages of poetry—unless there's a good reason for more.Given the amount of submissions GMR receives from September 1 to May 1, we'd be happy if each poet submitted only one manuscript per year.
The Massachusetts ReviewThree to six.If the person is being encouraged to send more work, immediately. Otherwise, six months.
New LettersFive poems is plenty. I don't want to get the sense that the poet writes furiously and sends out everything that spins from his or her Hewlett Packard.Six months or a year is fine.
Open CityThree to six, but no more than ten pages in all.About six months.
Poetry ReviewFour.Two to three months.
Provincetown ArtsThree to Five.One year (we are an annual).
SalmagundiOne to five.Three months to one year.
XanaduFive poems at the most. If the poet interests us, we will ask for more.Probably as long as four months, but that excludes the July through September break.


Do you read all submissions? Could you describe the selection process that the poems you read undergo?

Abacus: We read all submissions.

Chelsea: My associate editors screen the submissions to eliminate the obviously amateurish and inappropriate work, and to make recommendations to me if they spot anything truly outstanding. The great bulk of submissions, however, is generally sent to me. As I read, I set aside those that have immediate appeal, but also those that I feel challenged by, that I think will open up more to me under closer scrutiny. I then return to those manuscripts after a few days and read them afresh. I ultimately accept those that maintain a certain allure and mystery about them after several rereadings.

Frank: Yes, I read the poems, and if I'm positively impressed, I reread them. If I'm still impressed, I either pass them on for a second read or I dash off an acceptance letter before I change my mind. The rest goes back.

Green Mountains Review: Two "first readers" (established poets in their own right) read all the poetry submissions, put them into three categories—"no," "maybe," or "yes"—and indicate the specific poems they liked in each manuscript submission. For the "no" pile, I read the first poem or two; if they're not sufficiently interesting, I don't read the others. For the "maybe" and "yes" categories, I read the entire manuscript submission and make the final decision. If I need a fourth opinion, I confer with my co-editor or with another colleague whose critical judgment I trust.

The Massachusetts Review: Yes, we read all submissions ourselves—no screeners. When any of us finds a poem that excites, we show it to each other and decide. If one person feels strongly enough about a given poem, that person's judgment prevails.

New Letters: I read all poetry submissions; they are not screened. When I find poems I want for the magazine, I turn them over to the editor-in-chief, James McKinley, for final consultation. It's rare that we disagree on a poem, but in such cases, usually, the one most passionate about the poem makes the call. I also solicit work from poets I discover or already love, and those poems follow the same process.

Open City: Yes, and then I pass them on to our three other editors if I like them. All poems are read by at least one person, usually more.

Poetry Review: I read all the poems, discarding the obviously flawed ones quickly and living with the possibles until I feel sure.

Provincetown Arts: Yes. I take two weeks in the fall, two more weeks in winter, and read, read, read.

Salmagundi: Preliminary readers sometimes sift submissions, but generally the editors at least glance at submissions. We pass around final choices—three sets of eyes usually see them—before making a decision.

Xanadu: Our editorial board works on consensus, but each editor reads all material assigned and then shares the poems that interest with the others. Much commentary is shared until a final decision is reached.


Are cover letters crucial? Do you prefer original, creative, or factual ones? How long should they be?

Abacus: The work is more important than the cover letter.

Chelsea: I consider cover letters a courtesy, both from newcomers and from poets whose work we've published in the past. I prefer short, factual letters outlining recent publications (or simply a mention that the writer is as yet unpublished). Letters that attempt to regale me with the names of family pets or impress me with lengthy bibliographies are a waste of paper. I do enjoy hearing, however, if the writer has enjoyed a recent issue of the magazine.

Frank: Short but factual, sincere. Show me that you know why you'd like your poems to appear in Frank.

Green Mountains Review: I don't read cover letters until I've read the poems. Thus poems are published on their own merits, never because of the cover letter. I'm often appalled at the distance between the loftiness of the cover letter (its list of grand publications) and the shallowness of the poems at hand.

The Massachusetts Review: I like cover letters because they remind me to clear my head between each submission, to remember that I'm starting fresh on someone's new work. But just the facts—no effort to appear odd or especially to flatter.

New Letters: Although cover letters are not necessary, I do believe they can function as gestures of politeness and of personal integrity—and they help me, as an editor, to know there is a human being on the other end of this. Make letters primarily factual and business-like, except those from friends and acquaintances, which I hope will be friendly and full of news. Please save us from clever letters or letters that explain the background of poems, or analyze the poems. I have never seen a painfully cute or pedantic letter from an accomplished poet.

Open City: No, though no cover letter should be more than one page.

Poetry Review: No! Cover letters should be brief. Publishing history is relevant; nothing else is.

Provincetown Arts: Cover letters usually effective are often factual.

Salmagundi: Very brief cover letters are appreciated, though we do like to know where the work has been appearing or not appearing. Each year we accept work by people without books or extensive periodical publication.

Xanadu: Cover letters should be short or not needed at all. A brief bio would be helpful. Creativity works better in poems.


When do you write handwritten notes instead of sending rejection slips?

Abacus: As the whim pertains. Most replies are handwritten.

Chelsea: I've found that many beginners take any handwritten note as an invitation to bombard the editor with submissions. Accordingly, I now enclose handwritten notes only when I want to comment on the submission or encourage the poet to send more work; otherwise, I enclose only our preprinted rejection slip.

Frank: There's no system to this.

Green Mountains Review: I send brief hand-written notes to many poets, indicating which poems came closest to acceptance. To a select few, I send long hand-written notes explaining my reservations about a poem that came close to being accepted. Roughly half of these poems come back to me successfully revised and are published in GMR.

The Massachusetts Review: I write something in hand on the rejection slip when I've been intrigued by a group of poems but haven't found a particular poem that struck me entirely.

New Letters: I send a hand-written note when I find a poem that needs to be rescued, or deserves saving. Sometimes one sees the "poem within," which is better, more exciting, than the poem as it is. And if a little editing will do it, I will ask the poet to consider removing a line or changing something. Generally I write a personal note when I see talent or promise right on the edge of accomplishment.

Open City: When I've enjoyed reading the work, even if the poems weren't right for us.

Poetry Review: To give encouragement to promising work not quite ready for publication.

Provincetown Arts: Hand-written notes are intended to encourage merit.

Salmagundi: When time permits or when particular encouragement seems warranted, or—most importantly—when the poet has previously appeared in our pages.

Xanadu: Usually when really interested, but each editor may at times write when she thinks she can be helpful.



You can submit poems to any of these journals at the following addresses:
Abacus
Peter Ganick
181 Edgemont Avenue
Elmwood, CT 06110


Chelsea
Richard Foerster
Box 773
Cooper Station
New York, NY 10276


Frank
David Applefield
32 rue Edouard Vaillant
F-93100 Montreuil
FRANCE


Green Mountains Review
Neil Shepard
Johnson State College
Johnson, VT 05656


The Massachusetts Review
Paul Jenkins
South College
University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA 01003


New Letters
Robert Stewart
University of Missouri-Kansas City
Kansas City, MO 64110
Open City
Elizabeth Schmidt
54 Mercer Street #4
New York, NY 10013


Poetry Review
Peter Forbes
22 Betterton Street
London, WC2H 9BU
ENGLAND


Provincetown Arts
Christopher Busa
P.O. Box 35
Provincetown, MA 02657


Salmagundi
Robert Boyers
Skidmore College
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866-1632


Xanadu
Lois V. Walker
P.O. Box 773
Huntington, NY 11743
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